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Warning about Bridge Investment (May 2014)

Discussion in 'The Black Hole' started by McCormick, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. Warning data from 26 may 2014 :
    http://www.nbs.sk/_img/Documents/_Dohlad/PublicWarnings-SecuritiesDealers.pdf

    You can read about Bridge Investment and MindArk here :
    http://www.mindark.com/docs/reports/MindArk_AR_ENGx.pdf

    and here :
    http://www.mindark.com/press/press-releases/documents/mindark_prospekt_en.pdf

    Ok, lets go : (warning text taken directly from http://www.fi.se/warning)

    Firms you should avoid doing business with

    The following list contains the names of firms and false government authorities
    which FI or supervisory authorities in other countries have warned against.
    Warnings are issued when a firm conducts regulated operations on a market
    without having the necessary authorisation or without being registered with the
    relevant authority in the country in question. Read the warnings by clicking on
    the links. Not all investments require authorisation or approval from an authority.

    This list is not a "final list" – new firms are added on a regular basis. FI recommends
    that investors always check FI's Company register to ensure that a firm is authorised
    to offer financial supervision and subject to supervision.


    http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi2004/ifs/app/docs/fsd15874.pdf

    Their site "www.bridgeinvest.dk" is down since may. But thanks to waybackmachine it is still there. :p
    (update : still down on 4.4.2016)

    http://web.archive.org/web/20091106144804/http://www.bridgeinvest.dk/?

    It is indeed connected to http://www.bridgeltd.com/
    (update : still down on 4.4.2016)

    Now I know these warnings apply to many banks / investment groups...because of...reasons... so feel free to read for yourself, think for yourself.



    Oh and then there is the Hinduja Bank (Switzerland) which owns 14% of the shares at MindArk.
    "The Swiss Bank Specialised in the Growth Markets of South Asia and the Middle East" ya, makes sense...

    hinduja.
    http://www.hindujabank.com/

    http://www.mindark.com/investor-rel...ce/documents/Protokoll-arsstamma-20110601.pdf

    http://www.entropiaplanets.com/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2011

    Wait, Switzerland ? Reminds me of our old "friend(vestor)" Benny Iggland...but enough with the conspiracy theories...I throw mud.
     
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  2. dalewj

    dalewj StoryTeller/Nerd/Gamer

    A bridge 'loan' to nowhere......
     
  3. 1 year later, bridge investment still enlisted in "Public warnings" (aug. 2015)
    http://www.nbs.sk/_img/Documents/_Dohlad/PublicWarnings-SecuritiesDealers.pdf

    Result :

    http://www.bridgeinvest.dk/ -down [Created on 2008-05-17, Expires on 2016-05-31]
    http://www.bridgeltd.com/ - down [Updated on 2015-12-16, Expires on 2017-08-31]

    And googling for the full company name these days, "Bridge Global Services Corporation" only reveals
    one site that shows their (old) company located in Panama and offers the download of the "Extended Company Report" for 18 Euros.

    https://en.datocapital.com/pa/companies/Bridge-Global-Services-Corporation.html


    Profile on Xing still has 1 employee named "Ilgvars Lapsa" aka RedFox: (spread stuff about Bridge and still spreading MLM stuff, thanks to Zibster for the info)
    https://www.xing.com/companies/brid...?sc_o=pr2281_pfl_lo_upsell_cv_company_profile


    Ilgvars Lapsa.

    And you can still find this and that about "Paul Savage", their (ex) Communications Manager :
    paul savage bridge.

    Probably no longer active...


     
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  4. bump since you linked to this thread from another one that is waaaay off topic over there... no on this topic... well, uh, is there any updated list of the Mindark investors out there anywhere, might be interesting to do some detective work on who exactly those investors are...

    From way back we know about Golden Showers https://entropiascams.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/interesting-reading/ (wonder if that info is still accurate, given who was recently 'elected' and all)
     
  5. One might think MA would have enlisted "another big partner", if he would own between 5-10 million shares.
    Instead they wrote "approx. 900". So either there is no other "big partner" anymore, or the other "big partner" split his shares across dozens of sub-companies.

    As I dont know swedish law, I have no idea on how to get more names of shareholders out of this.
    Maybe Bridge LLC is gone. Maybe not.

    But what I really like to know is, why the Hinduja brothers (Hinduja Group / Hindjuja Bank) "The Swiss Bank Specialised in the Growth Markets of South Asia and the Middle East" are involved with 11% of MindArk shares. (if they are still involved)

    http://www.forbes.com/profile/hinduja/

    http://www.thestatesman.com/news/business/hinduja-brothers-top-uk-s-asian-rich-list/130998.html

    Really really want to browse the panama leak in drunk mode. ;D
     
  6. 2006 listing is below. Not sure if more up-to-date listings are out there... not that it really matters much... but anyways...
    kteiinvest FK AB 0,01
    Bankaktiebolaget Avanza 0,02
    Marco Behrmann, Landvetter 0,36
    Bo Bergman, Kalmar 0,01
    Urban Bothén, Västra Frölunda 1,70
    Patrik Broddesson, Australien 0,27
    Carnegie Investment Bank AB 27,04
    Sevo Daniel, Göteborg 0,17
    E-trade Sverige AB 0,18
    Tom Edlund, Göteborg 0,17
    Lena Edman, Göteborg 0,00
    Birgitta Ekasala, USA 0,01
    Annika Eriksson, Göteborg 0,23
    Expression AB 0,57
    Lars Falk, Göteborg 0,17
    Fischer Partners Fondkommission AB 0,42
    Hanna Friberg, Göteborg 0,21
    Andreas Funksjö, Göteborg 0,86
    Rolf Funksjö, Göteborg 0,44
    Golden Shadow Pictures, USA 0,36
    Martin Gunnarsson, Sätila 0,01
    Anders Gutenbrant, Stockholm 0,87
    Lars Hammarström, Göteborg 1,74
    Eva-Liz Harju, Stockholm 0,01
    Christian Holmqvist, Lindome 0,17
    Anders Johansson, Göteborg 0,00
    David Johansson, Bromma 0,17
    Jimmy Johansson, Västra Frölunda 0,31
    Kaupthing Bank Sverige AB 0,01
    Kronboken AB 1,94
    Rickard Lagerbäck, Mölndal 0,17
    Anders Larsson, Skövde 0,00
    Jonny Lindh, Torslanda 0,00
    Charlie Lindholm 0,01
    Magnus Martinsson, Göteborg 0,17
    Daniel Molin, Göteborg 0,09
    Nordea Bank AB 4,42
    Nordnet Bank AB 0,04
    Kristina Olsson, Göteborg 0,08
    Peter Olsson, Västra Frölunda 0,02
    Stefan Olsson, Mollösund 0,01
    SEB Securities Services Corporate Actions 12,32
    Stefan Serrander, Stockholm 0,03
    Niklas Severinsson, Göteborg 0,09
    Skandiabanken AB 3,73
    Patric Sundström Nordenmann, Töllsjö 0,24
    Svenska Handelsbanken AB 0,63
    Alf Svensson, Göteborg 0,18
    Carl-Reinhold Uggla, Göteborg 0,01
    Jan Welter Timkrans, Göteborg 39,04
    Adrian Welter, Mölnlycke 0,01
    Kim Welter, Västra frölunda 0,01
    Anthony Wong, Vallda 0,01
    Bernt Wåhlin, Göteborg 0,26
    Samt: ”Ej offentliga ägare 6 st” 0,02

    Wonder if Marco still has those shares even though Mindark fired him/See, whatever...
     
  7. I'd love to find out what happened to Marco and SEE. I remember Marco said he was leaving to do another game or a tabletop game?
     
  8. As I happen to speak Latvian, I tried to look up Ilgvars Lapsa (that's a Latvian name; common last name ('Fox'), uncommon name).

    First of all, on Xing (and elsewhere) he's listed not as an employee but as an 'independent associate' which is PC-speak for 'participant of a pyramid scheme'.
    His website in (bad) English reveals him as an experienced male bovine excrement distributor (colloquially known as 'bullshitter').
    Here's him talking to colleagues in Tunisia - unfortunately, there seems to be a language barrier between their varieties of English.
    Here's his Twitter, pushing various MLM stuff.
    More pushing MLM.

    No significant mentions in Latvian.

    Seems to be a random dummy, not even involved.
     
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  9. On a related note, I'm not sure all those Bridges are incarnations of the same Bridge, and that Bridge Group LTD is even related to Bridge Investment Network.

    This discussion on a Swedish forum however explicitly mentions 'Bridge Investment Network'. I can sort of read newspaper Swedish but forum Swedish is a bit too hard for me :) so I'll let someone else sift through that.
     
  10. Wait a minute...for all the accusations of EU being a pyramid scheme, the companies involved in its ownership are actual MLM firms outside of the digital world?!?!

    Makes you wonder what would happen to EU if everyone withdrew at the same time. Do they have the capital on hand to deal with that?
     
  11. NotAdmin

    NotAdmin Administrator

    Fun fact. I'm a freemason. I came in contact with another freemason who actually invested in Bridge.

    As for Marco, to the best of my knowledge, anyone who transferred from MA to SEE in the acquisition was approached by Jan to return. Some accepted, some chose to stick with SEE and see how deep the rabbit hole went. The latter were later on treated in exactly the way I have gotten to know Jan's style of dealing with people.
     
  12. Not just Fox, but RedFox ^^

    https://twitter.com/redfox_001

    SkyWay InvestGroup ? Already $ 180 400 000 000 of pre-orders. Not bad, eh ? x'D

    skyway 2016.

    https://office.skywayinvestgroup.com/landing/7?ref=0640151718226575&language=en

    And a official warning by the bank of Lithuania about it :
    (warning published around the same time as the warning of Bridge showed up (mid /end 2014)


    railway warning.

    http://www.lb.lt/the_bank_of_lithua...of_securities_in_violation_of_applicable_laws


    Search "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd" on the swedish Finansinspektionen : :)

    http://www.fi.se




    A nice presentation that leads to the old site :
    http://rsw-systems.yolasite.com/ (down)







    Try http://rsw-systems.com/?r=batalserega instead. If you dare. xD

    RSW Investment Group (SkyWay Invest Group) joins forces with Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.
    Absolutely makes sense.


    http://transnet-pg.com/en/cooperation-agreement-with-euroasian-rail-sky-way-systems-ltd/

    Even some "official" press conference :




    Their president is Dr. Anatoly Yunitsky (Member of the Federation of cosmonautics of the USSR, Academician of the Russian public Academy of Natural Sciences).

    Fair enough, if only this MLM crap, warnings about Bridge and RSW/SkyWay wouldnt be around. ;p

    Anyway, more to play with :

    silverfox redfox.

    GreenFox or BlackFox anyone ? ;D

    Fred Rosenthal finally found between all those Fred Rosenthals on facebook :

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010419551333

    Fred Rosenthal 2016.

    He works at http://www.eniro.se/ now.



    Ilgvars Lapsa is on facebook too, still announcing the SkyWay product : (march 2016) @_@

    https://www.facebook.com/ilgvars.lapsa?fref=ts
    Impressive list of MLM freaks he gathered with his SkyWay, One last name even is Mlm...
    ilgvars lapsa fb2.

    And according to this video, posted 5 days ago, progress is going well in the "test park" :
    Some workers, a big construction and an old man talking.



    p.s.
    Greedy a$$holes, money laundering freaks and criminals inside and behind of Entropia ? No way !
    This is just a big skyway beeing a work-in-progress. You can loose your whole investment or become f00king rich. The choice is yours.
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2016
  13. Sionkiewicz

    Sionkiewicz One of those Americans

    3rd

    Marco Behrmann
    Brand Manager
    Paradox Interactive
    October 2013 – Present (2 years 7 months)Stockholm, Sweden
    Brand Manager for Pillars of Eternity (http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/pillars-of-eternity), among other, yet to be revealed, titles.

    Overall, my duties include:
    - Plans and manages brands within Paradox Interactive including responsibility for the P/L of those brands.
    - Responsible for the launch and post-release activities of those brands.
    - Manages brand teams comprised of representatives from Sales, Marketing and Production disciplines.
    - Establishes, oversees and coordinates all production, marketing and sales activities to ensure the fulfillment of the brand plan.
    - Applies game metrics insights to optimize campaign tactics and drive revenue.
    - Assists in the development of long term strategic roadmap and consumer marketing plans
    - Maintain, develop and coordinate P/L models, sales, marketing, launch and post release plans and other steering documents with the brand team.
     
  14. NotAdmin

    NotAdmin Administrator

    Marco seems to be doing quite well. I recently exchanged some PMs with him on LinkedIn. If any of you want me to pass a message, let me know. Please refrain from asking about his time at MA though, as I doubt he will go into it.

    I know I said this before, but whenever I dealt with Marco, he was always a pleasant guy. Lykke and I, kinda tongue in cheek, invited him to our wedding. He ppolitely declined, but not without sending us some PED cards (Basically pre-paid cards with PED amounts attached to them. I definitely never threw them out, but I'd have to treasure hunt my pad to find them).

    To this day, I believe that the majority of stuff us old-timers enjoyed about PE pre-launch was due to Marco's influence. When we were role playing back in the days, I suspect Marco was behind the unofficial MA recognition of Lootius. And after Marco left (or was terminated, whichever version you believe), the soul of the game changed with it. And not for the better.
     
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  15. Gotta agree. Marco is the reason a lot of us started playing. Still read this old thread from time to time:
    http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/f...3-Marco-said&p=2597728&viewfull=1#post2597728

    The entropiatrash part that isn't public any more is below:
    ==============
    Below is a list of various articles, Interviews, Q&A Sessions, Dev Notes, and a number of different Developer Comments as well as community commentary on various things related to Entropia Universe over the years. The goal here is primarily to preserve a bit of Entropia Universe’s history as much of that is being torn down over time as older websites disappear, get taken over by new management and urls change, etc. I will try to add internet archive links to each article as articles are added (when possible) to this list so that copies of the articles are available in the Internet Archives ‘way back machine’ in case the original articles get moved, deleted, etc.

    8/18/2014 update on banks by Mcormick on Entropiaplanets Forum – entertaining yet somewhat sad history lessons
    Internet Archive Link

    July 27, 2012 thread on PlanetCalypsoForum entitled !!SCAM!!: http://www.entropiauniverse.net84.net/
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Thread discusses a scam in Entropia Universe in which a scammer was naming themselves with avatar names similar to “Entropiia Supoort Universe” or “Entropiia Supoort Universe” and sending out links in chats to phishing websites

    Entropia Universe Interviews: MindArk Interview By Arno Laurman on January 30, 2012 at http://www.mmorpg.com/
    Internet Archive Link

    June 5, 2011 Apology to the Community by Mr Nukem Quayjay for allowing a list posted on The Patriot’s website to be publicly viewable.
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: The Black and Red List were originally created by the NBK group of societies and one of the leaders of the NBK gave the lists to Nukem to use, who then put it on his own society’s website. I believe that one of the lists was a list of avatars that NBK leadership had created as a ‘Kill on Sight’ list and that the other list was a list of avatars to not trade with for various reasons such as accusations of scamming, hurting the feelings of NBK leaders in various ways, etc. I believe that both lists and any list created based off of those lists were used to harass, control, and intimidate people in Entropia Universe in multiple ways, which might be seen as a violation of either the terms of use or eula. I believe that the ‘kill on sight’ lists were not just used to create weapon targets on PVP zones, but were also used in non-PVP zones to create targets for mob-training. It is unknown if these or any similar lists exist today since most such lists are kept on password protected society forums, etc. However, it is likely that such lists that are used to harass and abuse members of the community do still exist today in various forms. It is sad that suchcyberbullying exists. We, as a community should do something to stop this type of ongoing problem. Mindark as the developer of Entropia Universe, should also do something to stop this cyberbullying that is happening on their servers, especially since it is part of Mindark’s mission to ensure that “Both Planet Partners and the participants on the planets should always feel safe in their endeavors in Entropia Universe.”

    04/15/2011 thread Nostalgia thread: Once upon a time in Entropia…… explores what Entropia used to be like…
    Internet Archive Link

    December 16, 2010 Thread on PlanetCalypsoforum entitled Why is this allowed? which is a long winded thread that ended up being over 50 pages discussing Neverdie Studio’s use of what appeared to be ‘insider information’
    Internet Archive Link

    September 25, 2010 Apology to the Community by Mark Rufen Power for being Calypto’s Hired Hitman in game
    Internet Archive Link

    June 16, 2010 Comment by Marco on Planetcalypsoforum
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Infamous Quote from Marco Behrmann, “Understandably there are some questions raised due to the annual report. Unfortunately I cannot comment on the FPC part – yet. What I can say is that the future for FPC and Planet Calypso is looking brighter than ever.” This was an extremely ironic quote since FPC was history not long after this quote was made.

    June 2010 Comment by Marco on PlanetCalypsoForum about no loot frequency
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: The comment seems to indicate that Mindark has the ambition to reduce no loots even more in the future.

    April 25, 2010 thread on Planetcalypsoforum by Mandu entitled Should NEVERDIE be banned?
    Internet Archive Link

    December 2009 posting by Marco on Planetcalypsoforum
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: This Posting contains one of the famous quotes from Marco Behrmann

    And it still stands – all avatars’ are equal.

    November 14, 2009 Posting on PlanetCalypsoForum by Justin from Mindark
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: This posting was a promise from Justin at Mindark that Mindark was aware of issues with booths that happened when version update 10 occurred and that Mindark was working on relocating them to pre version 9.4 positions. This posting also stated “There will be an upgrade to the booths in the near future.” The relocation did not work well since most buildings in game were turned around from where they were prior to version 10, and some were put in to awful positions where some estates were not even able to be viewed since the ground level was above the estates in the basements of some apartment buildings. The promised “upgrade” never happened… The “upgrade” wasn’t really an upgrade… it was an offer to “buy” an upgrade in item count on estates, and those that did buy in to that upgrade, which cost something like 2k ped did not see their estates upgraded for many months, if at all. If they would have increased item slot numbers freely, it would have been far more of an upgrade that seems to have been promised in Justin’s post.

    January 30, 2009 Posting by Marco on PlanetCalypsoForum
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: This posting from Marco at Mindark indicates that First Planet Company (FPC) did not plan to open up a Planet Calypso Forum run by FPC as Mindark believed that the forum should be handled by the community itself. This is interesting because planetcalypsoforum.com was originally created as a copy of the database of the forum that originally existed at entropiaforum.com when FPC/Mindark did intend to buy the database and forum from the individual in the community that currently runs both Entropiaforum and Planetcalypsoforum. Apparently that sale deal never went through since that individual appears to still own the forums today in 2014.

    http://www.gamesradar.com/planet-cyrene-2/ 2009 Article on Entropia with focus on Planet Cyrene at gamesradar.com
    Internet Archive Link

    2009 “A Minute with Marco” by Skam
    Internet Archive Link
    Note: Discussion Includes mention of Factories

    2009 post by Marco at http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?174048-Major-tier-upgrade-process&p=2219565&viewfull=1#post2219565
    Internet Archive Link
    Note: Marco’s mention of an “Upgrade Replicator”

    Post on PlanetCalypsoforum by Justin from Mindark
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Promise from Justin at Mindark that “There will be only 15 sets of POE armor rewarded in this event.”

    2008 Q&A with Marco Behrmann
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Mentions Beer and Fishing being added to Entropia… Also, ironically mentions that Marco hates Grinding x amount of mobs for rewards type missions. At a later date after that Q&A that exact type of mission/quest system is implemented in game on a massive scale.

    2007 Article About CRD – http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_...5&sid=13861345&con_type=1&d_str=20070601&fc=8
    NOTES: the original article has been deleted from existence, and there is no archive of it in the internet archive’s way back machine. However, A copy of it exists on Axe Murderer’s Blog.
    Internet Archive of Axe Murderer’s Blog Copy of the Article
    Notes: This was an article about CRD – Cyber Recreation Development Corp., which was to be a Planet Partner in Entropia Universe. That partnership fell through and never actually happened. The article indicates that there were extremely large goals with the project, which probably were not really obtainable, which may be part of the reason the CRD planet never saw the light of day. Part of the article stated:

    CRD chief executive David Liu predicted that the virtual worlds will generate approximately 10,000 jobs in the mainland.
    “An important aspect for this project is also the positive effects on our environment that we foresee,” Liu said. “People will actually be able to work from home inside Entropia Universe, as many people do today, even from rural areas, thereby decreasing the amount of pollution generated by travel.”

    2007 (updated 2009) Interview with Marco Behmann by Cody “Micajah” Bye on tentonhammer.com
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: The article states:

    So how many players are actually playing Entropia Universe? According to Marco, there are 625,000 registered accounts for EU at Mindark, which is not a number to take lightly. Couple that with an average payment of $23 per month for active players, and you have quite a large chunk of change.

    December 14, 2006 Posting at New World Notes – Exploring Ideas with the Explorers of Worldsby Gwyneth Llewelyn
    Internet Archive
    Notes: Most of this article deals with Second Life, but one part of it says

    Marco Behrmann, of Entropia Universe, is planning to set up a private island inside SL to use it as a vehicle of advertising of his own MMORPG. The boundaries are beginning to get thinner and thinner.

    2005 Q&A with Marco Behrmann by Richard Cox on mmorpg.com
    Internet Archive Link
    Note: Famous Quote from Marco Behrmann, ” We are very reluctant to change the stats for any item in the virtual universe, as such measures would bring instability to the ingame market, which is just plain bad. We are a business and our main priority is to have pleased customers for the long haul. Anything else is just plain stupid.”

    http://www.playmmo.com/forum/showthread.php?p=88717 – November 23, 2005 – Marco’s posting about PROJECT ENTROPIA VERSION UPDATE 7.8
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Dead Link now, but Internet Archive still exists. This version update implemented taming the first time.

    http://www.playmmo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6099 – Very Early Interview with Mindark Representative.
    Notes: Dead Link Now, and there is no internet archive of the above web page. However, at one point in time when the page existed part of it said:

    6-a: Ventures into space will come in 2005. We hope to bring real time space ship combat with robot ships and other space living entities. Asteroid mining will also be a part of it. I envision a major star ship with a crew of 100 people all manning various functions of the ship, like engineering, guns, torpedos, strategic command, shields, power distribution, hull repairs, etc, allwoing for major epic battles in the sky.

    These were big ideas for back then. Some of that vision has come to life now that space exists and ships with multiple crew members can pilot them, even if the crew does not contain 100 avatars simultaneously logged in on motherships yet.

    http://www.playmmo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8005 – 2005 Z&A Session Q 38 – Auctions & Systems down
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Dead Link Now. However, Internet Archive Link works. This was a discussion about how that auction clock was tied to the real clock, even when the server was down, but that Mindark was talking about setting the auction timer to be linked to server uptime instead.

    http://www.playmmo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8266 – 2005 Q&A Session: Q- 41 – Rare armor Sets and Missing parts
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: Dead Link now. However, Internet Archive Link is active. This was a Forum Posting by Marco Behrmann that states, “Various items are more common at various times. All items can be found in PE, at any time,” in response to a question about rare items being able to be looted.

    March 29, 2005 Gamespot article: MindArk threatens MS with suit over raid
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes:This article talks about the BSA Raid charges being dropped and that Mindark is still considering a countersuit against Microsoft and the BSA.

    EntropiaPlanet’s Wiki Copy of June 26, 2002 Press Release from Mindark
    Internet Archive Link
    Notes: This was Mindark’s ‘official response’ about a raid on Mindark by the BSA Software Alliance that was done because the BSA believed that Mindark may have been using pirated software. A part of this press release states:

    Benny Iggland, chairman of the supervisory board of MindArk AB says in a comment: “MindArk is prepared to sue Microsoft and the other companies for damages caused by their action. Proceedings from this process, which will certainly reach a substantial number of millions of United States Dollars, will be placed in the virtual universe of Project Entropia as a number of gigantic treasures that anyone entering the Universe of Project Entropia may find and grab.“
     
  16. San

    San

    Can someone help me justify spending the time to take in all this information? After only a superficial glance, correct me if I got things wrong: Is there proof that companies red-flagged by supervisory bodies or watchdog organisations actually have stakes in MA, and if so how would this taint MA itself? How is Marco's role in the early history of PE/EU related to this? Then at the end I read something about sueing Microsoft... makes my head spin. I need to go out on some RL errands first.
     
  17. You SEE history has a way of repeating itself... as far as the Marco stuff goes, it's way off topic a bit (not completely though), just an homage to the guy that is the reason most of us old timers are here.
     
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  18. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    That site has scam written all over it
     

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