The new Tier System [My Opinion]

So should I understand this like: I need another Niflheim Unlimited, to get a Niflheim Tier 1?

 

As I read it .. yes ... gl upgrading

 

So all those "globals" about people reaching tier X in X items, upgrade their items with an extra item???

 

Nope L do it automaticaly...

But I just realised when It breaks i need to manually reget the tiers on the next L item, so I never reach tier 10 before it breaks...

Thats fucked up, I thought once u got it unlocked u got it unlocked..

Ima buy 10 maddox IV and see if i can get it to tier 10 :D Might be one mighty fucking gun then :D

 

Massive differences on some (L) item's tier increase rate.

 

I have to agree that this is the most ridiculous update I have seen yet.

The drop in loot return almost 2years ago was bad enough, when loot went from a bad run with a return of 70% to the massive drop of 30% after the update.

I also got a ul item up to 0.09 in the tier system. Same message and same amount of shock when seeing I had to get another one with a risk of loosing the one I already have.

I really don't follow the logic with this move.

There are tons of old things that need to be fixed and reinstated into game and now we get this tier thing.

I never thought from the day I started EU that I would want to leave the game but at this point the market has dropped like crazy and it seems that unless you are rich it's almost pointless to even play EU.

The fun of this game is slipping away almost daily now and to be honest I have looked at EU as an investment because I'm going to play some game and I like EU because I felt I was being able to increase my own investment in the game and have something to show for it in the long run.

I use to tell people to sign up for accounts to try it out, see if they like it and to show them that at the end of it all you would get something back. I don't tell people about EU anymore.

 

Originally Posted by Knuckles

Really awesome system isnt it? I wish there was a feedback button on every VU with 3 Options...Yay, Nay, Fire Someone
Knuckles, I want the "fire someone" button!!!

This is a slap in the face! Its disgusting how they threat their customers.

Who can risk to loose one nice item just to MAYBE upgrade another?

did you also realize that if you sell your looted ammo you should be quite carefull not to sell less than 100 because you just loose it when its less than a pec?

can be quite profitable for MA though.. ppl did get rich from stealing 0,05 pennys from bank transactions..


why was all this necessary?
why not fix some other bugs/issues first?

why the fuck has this system to be so darn complicated and extremely expensive?



would you like to enhance your bugged estate for 25k peds to get some music to your always robbed shop or appartment? maybe then this new update is also a good one for ya...

 

sorry, is that really what they have siad (i cant get EF from work)? thats even worse that i thought!!!. i gathered that you had 50% of success, if a success, then 95% of salvage. so on a click basis, 1 in 10 clicks could result in loss of the ingredient (im not great at maths, might have that the wrong way round and its 2.5%).

its true, on reflection, if you dont want to upgrade then dont. so it doesnt really matter. however, why bother then with a system no one will use? or is it just that UL really isnt liked. why not just reimburse and get rid?

 

MA probably won't take his call......

 

its clear thats the intention from the grpahic, and i cant believe noon in a meeting asked the question already. he's going back to MA to see if they will change it as they've dropped a bollock.

this is just the end of a long line of conflicts in their design strategy. why release Opalo then restrict amps? then introduce L items with better than ubers stats for mid range? why provide super faps but put stupid skill requirements? why ask us to pay for armour equip and apply a delay? why drop (slightly) improved SGA unlimited items after spending years not dropping UL items at all? now we have an upgrade system that no bugger can dare use unless on their opalo or un-eco crafted weapons. why do a skill nerf one year then have skill bonus periods the next?

 

The CEO of Planet Partners should call a boardmeeting, A.S.A.P.

BTW, whos bright idea was this? Which single individual thought of this?

Give your clients , in the least, a VOTE on such matters? Listen to them please, I implore you.

People dont mind paying to have fun, I know cos I did. But if you remove the fun factor, with ridiculous overpricing, and money milking tricks, trough software adjustments, what do you think people will do then? Also the wealthy dont like wasting liquid assets. These methods implimented is NOT Marketting and fall under "gangesterism" practices.

Mindark & Planet Partners should focus on marketting the product via the media at this stage, classy and proffesionally. Is it not obvious to you , as it is to all here, that you may have neglected that part? Mainstream Media People! More accounts, more depositors. But Fun-Fun_Fun, OK? It is still a game. A pleasant experience. Youre dealing with people, also emotions involved. Person behind every ava right?

Why focus on securing every ped? Gaining as much as fast possible? Ist such an implimentation a bit too early?

Keep It Simple Stupid "K.I.S.S."

 

oh i understand the individual reasons. the point is the lurch one way.... whoa too much, adjust... lurch the other way... whoa, too much... etc. in isolation many make sence, but together they point to disharmony in the balance and design dpartment. theres no clear strategy, just great idea, lets deploy it! for example they should have acted to put more good UL items out there when the market price started getting silly (i shudder that i think current SH price is "cheap") so that L wasnt necessary. but the L items are out there and some are so stupidly cheap they screw the economy. go back to the opalo, i thought the amp restriction was the best thing, i was tired using the opalo (stuck in eco but low-mid level zone) and it forced me out into proper weapons and more substantial mobs (*hunting* rather than grinding). but then a couple of months later, the K400 L comes along and creates exactly the same problem: if you dont use it you are behind the curve. they didnt learn. its as is from time to time one internal group/manager gets the upper hand in discussion and their vision and decsions hold for a while. this happens in companies, its natrual, but to the customer the effects should be negated by an overriding long term strategy that overrules certain ideas that are out of scope for the time. its not just hunting balance its thing like story lines, wierd crap drops thats meaingless, the egg (though im in no doubt that hatched for ND and good luck to him), ter's mythical item, Merry Mayhem with deliberate exlusion of majority while having tiers as a sop to lower levels (why not have deeds drop randomly?), placing TPs miles from LAs, redesigning the whole planet with no attention to history and wtf is the golf course about? etc.

 

What I said here.

 

i never thought that would be the case anyway. but theres still the 95% salvage rate thing, a 1:20 chance you will lose the second item. anything other than 0% chance of loss is unacceptable. it would be difficult enough to obtain a second item, so that needs to be removed too. i dont mind there being a cost, losing the materials to upgrade seems inevitable and makes sence.

EDIT: it seems the item is fully returned upon a success. however, if some proffesion check isnt met and you attempt anyway without success, you do lose the second item. too complicated.