The Netherlands 1st at declaring lootboxes as illegal...asking developers for changes

yeh it is blatant gambling. In MA talk, there is no way that skill, leveled skill or knowledge can influence what you get in a loot box.

While I get that they can claim otherwise for the various in game professions. These webshop items are pure hit and hope.

 

Maybe they could link the chances of looting a loot box to in-game attributes?

For example agility and/or strength and maybe include a new lock-picking skill in-game?

NB by publishing this suggestion I hereby claim full copyright and will take legal action against any mmorpg owners or employees who implement this without paying me lots of dosh.

 

Not devils advocate at all. Interesting info. So is that the value of the box before opened? or the value of the box as a container? (is it even a container?) and is it that all goods inside the box will always have an equal combined TT? Also is the TT value of the box the same as the cost of it in the web store (PED equivalent I mean)?

Final question, is it that the items in the box "might" have a value in resale massively beyond their TT value?

As is the always the problem with me in Entropia. I wonder around and don't "play" that much so I've no idea how half the stuff works anymore :D

 

Wistrel, “wonder around”?

Not sure if a typo but still a great phrase and one that I intend to copy and use irl.

 

The box has no value. The key to open the box does.
Boxes are tradable.
You cannot buy Boxes from the webshop. Only Boxes in combination with keys
You can buy keys from the webshop for 10 ped
A key in combination with a box gives you 10 ped of it value. This value can be tt-ed or refined.
Things to note :
refining cost is not included
If a pet is in the loot the total tt is not 10 peds. A pet can be recycled for 1-3 pecs.
Sometimes a ring is in the opened box. The Markup value can be +10 ped to +20k ped (unique ring) , but the tot value remains 10 ped

 

Wander around I guess. But Wonder around would be true too especially when I find something pretty to look at :D

 

Aren't we trying to say here that the box is guaranteed to have a TT value of 10ped which is what it cost to buy, but it MIGHT be worth more to the player base, i.e. in resale value if the contents are rare and not say, just ammo for example?

With other games, there is no such thing as TT value, so players who buy a loot box are at the mercy of the random number generator as to if they are "worth" anything at all (of course with no RCE they can't be).

So from MA's perspective isn't the deal that effectively I give you a tenner and you give me a tenner back, but you MIGHT give me something I can sell to someone else for 20 or even 100 occasionally.

Of course, that tenner is now in the game rather than in your pocket and this is where MA win? Because most people don't withdraw (I imagine).

Wistrel

PS note I might have completely misunderstood

 

Exactly. MA is not concerned with the value players associate to indivual items, the tt value is what they sell it for and is the exact same amount users have a right to redeem should they wish to cash out. It is currency for currency. Like coins, which all have the same value as currency, but a few of them happen to be rare prints which, when found, are worth much more to collectors. The state would have to prosecute itself as issuer of these coins if it found fault with that. But then, little does logic mean if someone in politics picks a target.