Personal issues, off-topic and such

Discussion in 'The Black Hole' started by Tass, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. Tass

    Tass Administrator

    The original thread from which many posts have been moved to this one in an attempt of applying moderation: http://www.entropiaplanets.com/threads/dealing-with-kill-stealers-during-migration.11620/ (Post#2 is referring to the that thread).


    Please try to stay on topic in any thread, please take continuing potential personal issues to private conversations (these have most features also available in forum threads, for example multiple participants, feel free to invite a moderator).
     
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  2. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  3. Yea, I was a bit frustrated when Serica locked it. It seems that the PCF rules, at least their interpretation changes from mod to mod. The way to prevent bad behavior in game like Kill Stealing is to bring it to light. The PCF policies of no naming and shaming, no personal disputes etc is well intended and good, but their enforcement is way too strict.
     
  4. So Serica spanked you for violating the same PCF rules you love to quote to eveyone that posts on PCF, but when they fuck up your agenda you come crying back here?....you didn't have any issues when you were fanboi'ing around PCF like some favorite son calling for bans and calling for censoring people that didn't agree with you...LOL
    Suck it up princess.....
    Before you come here looking for some sort of redemption, you might want to think about the fact most of the people on this forum are aware who you are and your history...lol
     
  5. When do I quote PCF rules to anyone? And please show me where I'm "crying" about anything since this post is basically a copy and paste from that post.

    Fanboy? Do you even know what that means? ...or do you not even read what I post over there? I post what's on my mind, what I think, what my opinion is. Others, perhaps yourself, seem to just regurgitate the opinions and twisted facts of others. I can only assume you do that to win their approval.

    Redemption? Who said anything about redemption? Did you even read the content of this thread? And since you basically made the same point here as in the other thread you are trolling me on, I'll post here what I said there:

    .....And I know who those people are too. Certain types always seem to gravitate to the EU forum with the most relaxed rules and over the last 10 years I am proud to say that I've managed to piss off that group of people probably more than anyone else in EU.

    Unlike some weak minded sycophantic individuals around here, I won't quake and bow down to forum trolls, or anyone for that matter. I'll continue to speak my mind and defend those who I care about. Why? Because that's what I do.

    And if you have something to say about me, please feel free, because over and over through all the years of explaining and defending myself in the forums I always seem to come out on top. The reason for that is because people like you, who like to throw stones and put people down just to make yourself feel good, continuously fail to put together a coherent argument, especially one that's factual and substantive.
     
  6. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  7. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  8. Zenzile's apology thread is a completely separate and unrelated thing.

    As far as your post above that, I skimmed it... it's a bit long

    I think your point is that you don't care about the subject and that some others don't as well. That's great, the thread isn't for you then... I will tell you this, a lot of people do care about the issue.

    I address issues in various ways, and coming to the forum is a last resort. I'm not the kind of person that backs down, not in real life and especially not online. I wont be bullied. If you push me, I'll push back. If you want attention from me, I'll give you more then you can handle. Why? Because that's who I am. I'm a nice guy until someone starts messing with me, at that point it becomes eye for any eye, and if it continues, I'll be an unrelenting asshole.

    In the 10 years that I've been playing EU, 100% of the time when I bring things to the forum as a last resort, it turns out to be the correct choice. If some feathers get ruffled and people get pissed or annoyed along the way, well I really don't care.

    In this specific case, what has happened is a lot of attention and awareness has been brought to the kill stealing issues on Longtooth and as a result it has decreased significantly. In fact not one person has attempted it since I posted whereas before I posted, it was one person per hour... That's called "mission accomplished"

    When I hunt with big DPS guns, people don't bother trying because it's hard to compete with 80-100 DPS, but when I'm out there using low DPS stuff, amongst people who don't know me, well people who think they can get away with something use the opportunity to try.

    The reason Saoirse became the lightning rod for the subject is because of how far he took it. He attempted to take the first one from me and failed when I switched guns. In chat I told him to stop, but he didn't, and along with being a dick in chat, he continued to shoot mobs that I had already shot, even walking by mobs next to him just to get to the ones I was on and in a couple cases he did do more DPS then me.

    That along with being abusive in chat is called bullying. Plain and simple.... I am no ones bitch and I am not going to be bullied.... NO ONE should have to put up with that kind of thing anywhere. Some people turn the other cheek, some walk away, some cry and pout, but not me.

    So when things continued to escalate in game, I decided to inform his entire soc of how he acts. Some of his friends, or at least the ones he manipulated came to his aid and the harassment continued with him and Alan Moe standing there right next to me purposefully waiting for me to try and shoot a mob. And then on top of that, his other soc m8 Spassy decided to run mob trains on Kitty and she had nothing to do with any of this.

    His behavior was unacceptable. It doesn't have to be tolerated and it won't be tolerated.

    ...and don't assume that I'm bent out of shape when in fact I'm not. I type fast, can verbalized my thoughts quickly and put them to print with ease. I'm naturally a blunt and to the point person anyway.

    And as far as my "image", I couldn't care less about opinions of people on a web forum because after all, I'm just a guy playing a video game. I know who my friends are and that's enough for me. Anyone who is bothered by me sticking up for myself and my friends can have a pair of middle fingers along with an ass cheek to kiss.
     
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  9. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  10. As far as my health and well being goes, I don't know why you are concerned, or why you think that your opinion matters to me. You desire to frivously quibble is on display here for all to see as you continue to make points that lack any substantiative content or relevance to the topic at hand. Moreover, my experiences with you, as well as the experiences others have had with you, have long caused many people to question your mental health... And Im really biting my tounge here and resisting the urge to elaborate further, but what I will say to you, and I hope you absorbe it, is that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    And back on topic, regarding perception of events, it's not like I was the only person there... Plenty saw what happened, let's not forget... That mob train didn't happen to me.

    You are fooling yourself if you think that what you say here, or anywhere, affects my day in anyway. For me, this thread and the forums in general are merely boredom controll while I'm at work.

    So go ahead and continue defending a kill stealing exploiter through more off topic demagoguery as you spew your ramblings all over this thread.
     
  11. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  12. I'm not channeling anything toward you, don't flatter yourself

    And if you don't want to troll my thread, then stop doing it. It's that simple... The fact that you continue to post and argue about nothing at all only demonstrates your need for attention.

    I'll leave it, thanks :)

    Maybe I should have rephrased because I'm not actually concerned

    You are right about your personal situation being none of my concern, or any one else's for that matter, yet for some reason evey random thought that goes tumbling through your head seems to find it's way onto a public forum.

    I'll be Captain Obvious for a moment and say that no one really cares so maybe you should go find a hobby, or a girlfriend, instead of wasting your time here.
     
  13. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  14. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  15. Is there a reason you are trolling this thread?

    In case anyone wonders why this forum is so dead compared other EU related forums, it's because lunatics like him are allowed to operate freely, without adhering to forum topics, or even anything coherent.

    There is a reason why active forums have a reasonable amount of moderation. His ramblings don't affect my day, however the vast majority of people would rather not deal with it, which is why they don't post.
     
  16. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  17. Would you care to elaborate more, or are you done now?
     
  18. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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  19. Tass

    Tass Administrator

    Thanks for the assessment.

    What is a "reasonable amount of moderation" depends on personal preferences I guess. In fact, considering the course this thread took I was very very tempted to apply some smooth moderation by asking everyone to take to private conversation what appear to be mainly personal issues, consider that done now (everyone).

    In regards to what EP is about please check out the mission statement. One of the main pillars is "free speech" (which does not mean that everything is allowed).

    Imo "free speech" is one of the major factors driving freedom, openness, transparency and ultimately fairness in social structures. Censorship is no good, and it is even worse when it's formalized in rules. Exercising "free speech" means, for example, that I have to accept posts on EP I do not agree with at all, topics that I think are should not be discussed on EP, behaviour that I consider inappropriate. Nevertheless "free speech" for me is not up for negotiation.

    What is important to point out: The amount of potentially unpleasant content on EP imo is NOT an issue of EP. People bring content to EP that they are not allowed to get rid off elsewhere. This is an issue mainly generated by rules, censorship and style of moderation at other places, these are wrong, EP allowing free speech is right.

    On EP everyone should be welcome, the notorious nagger as well as the notorious fanboy, the reverse-engineer of game mechanics as well as the gambling addict, the relentless and selfless community worker as well as the selfish business person, the pre-gold veteran as well as the complete newbie.

    However, I can image that "negativity" isn't the most favorite content of most people, but really, "negativity" can be found everywhere, maybe not just everywhere in the same shape... Personally I wish that more people would actually use EP more often for "positive" content, informative, funny, tutorial, research, etc content; instead of just for the stuff you are not allowed to do elsewhere. And that way improving the "positive"/"negative" ratio.

    For me the choice whether to use the one or the other service depends much more on other things than just the "positive"/"negative" ratio I might find there. For example, I d prefer to contribute to a "by the community for the community" service like EP with content available to everyone under a free license instead of to contribute to a website where all user generated content by ToS becomes property of the guy running the website for personal gain. Oh, and quality over quantity. After all probably a matter of personal preferences and character.
     
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  20. Point taken taken, there is no use trying to reach out and bring awareness to such a person as hardwrath who will shoot down, belittle, inmidate and name call everyone who does not meet his own agenda in obstructing him to get his own way in giving a point without validity, validity.

    It is better to let such power-tripping ego-mad driven control-freaks as Hardwrath have their podium, make their noise and do not interact with their opinions of what they feel is right and wrong from their viewpoint in the form of open debate and eventually let them run out of steam having their tanty.

    On a personal note,

    in future I will let such people of Hardwrath's behavioural type just run out of steam by ignoring thiem, then will let a sleeping dog lay there after.

    In light of this, all post relating to bring awareness to his behaviour on EP and his negative social actions onto and over other members of EP shall be deleted with three reasons; Firstly he has demonstrated he lacks the aptitude to fathom the such, secondly the time is not right for him to make such progress in life and thirdly the posts are now taken out of order and the thread they were intended for, no longer being in context and having the intended impact

    Cheers.

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