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Data Release Of ESA's Gaia Mission With VR Visualization

Discussion in 'Other games and gaming' started by San, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. San


  2. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    I might be able to try the 2nd one, it looks like it is muliplatform but sounds like the first is Vive only. Have a friend I can recommend it to though. Thanks for the heads up!
  3. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    So I tried the one that said vive only. I "sort of" managed to use it by using my hands as make shift vive controllers via a special leap motion driver. Struggled to make it work well enough to be useful though. I think it wasn't working right to be honest. My suspicion was I was meant to be able to see something other than the menus and the satelite controller thingy. I could see these pictures around me and move closer to each one but each was just an image.

    The other software required me to install git hub and build things which I wasn't in the mood for such faffing so didn't try that one.

    Still, pleased I "sort of" got my hands to work as Vive controllers.
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  4. San


    I also haven't been able to see more than the handful pictures floating around the starting location, but didn't spend time digging deeper. Kind of underwhelming for the expectation raised with the announcement, but I suspect we're a little spoilt as gamers while this thing was created by scientists. The interesting stuff must be in there somewhere. A game based on the actual data might be cool, I think.
  5. Wistrel

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  6. San


    Elite was my first thought exactly :) Though you need to do a few things differently to be new. If I knew I had a few years at least of basic income...
  7. Can you play Elite Dangerous just using the keyboard?

    Also, can someone who can’t multitask and gets a bit confused under pressure play it?
  8. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    hmm... have to admit I never tried (keyboard) I hear it plays well on gamepad though if you don't have a joystick. I imagine keyboard and mouse is possible - it is about the most configurable game in history regarding controls, as far as I can tell. It even spits out game events in computer readable code that people use to hook up their own stuff to.

    The combat training missions are quite hard I found, defo not a "first try" scenario - it also really helps to be able to look around (head tracker) in order to keep prey in view.

    I don't know if multi tasking is really an ED thing. It is certainly a complex game with lots to learn and little info without hunting around (a bit like Entropia in the earlier days). As for the pressure thing, maybe if you avoid combat? i.e. stick to mining and trading and hope you can always run away?

    I've not actually played it that much strangely enough but I find the game interesting

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  9. Thanks Wistrel!

    I remember playing the original Elite (assume it was an earlier version) much simpler.

    Enjoyed the trading back then and wasn’t difficult if I remember correctly.

    So would take that route again along with exploring.

    Ideally I’d like to trial the game if possible rather than buy it and then find it too difficult.

    But from what you say the game does seem a bit beyond my <placeholder for the right word that should go here>.

    Pity because it does sound like a game I’d enjoy.

    If my more capable gamer friend hadn’t moved out of town maybe I could have been gunner, radar guy or air hostess whilst he flew it and barked orders.
  10. Wistrel

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    I think you can crew big ships now and indeed be a gunner or a launchable fighter ship but amusingly I've not played since they introduced this stuff.

    I'd advise,.. actually where is that amazing video....

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  11. Ahh yes forgot about that excellent video. :)

    Kinda confirms my belief too difficult for lazy me.

    Actually played EU tonight and enjoyed it. <shame>

    Ventured into pvp3 hoping to murder some loot carrying noob who was looking the other way.

    But completely empty.

    Still, got the adrenaline going a bit.
  12. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    I can tell you more. I play Elite Dangerous for months meanwhile and still don't know nothing about all the possibilities of the game. But I enjoy it so much. My background was the old Elite at a Commodore C64 way back in 1987 or 1988. At this time I wasn't patient enough to become better and better. I read about a big battle ship namend Anaconda. That was the dream. But I never got one.

    Meanwhile I own an Anaconda. Well, it's a bit expensive. Just the basic one is expensive. But I want to improve it. This process is time- and money-consuming. You need to do several special missions to get invitings from engineers who give you blueprints for improvements. But you still need very special materials to make the improvements. So my Anaconda still lies in a dockyard and I use a Viper Mk IV to do all the business to earn money and find special materials. That's a small ship. Not good for trading or mining. It can't carry much load. But I improved it as far as possible. It's cheap, fast, agile and offers good shields against attacks. It's name is "DA BITCH" :-) I didn't shoot anyone in ED yet. I simply don't want this. Unfortunately mercaneries, head-hunters and pirates want to shoot me and loot my cargo hold. So I don't transport any goods but data only. I work as data courier only and earn all the millions of Credits for all my ships (8 different meanwhile) and improvements with this job. After some practice it becomes easy to avoid attacks. Additional my Viper has good shields and engins. Meanwhile no one can catch me anymore. Best premise to become a trader or miner one day. You can escape from attacks, save your fright and deliver or sell it.

    I usually lie relaxed on the sofa and fly around. Sometimes it takes 10 or 15 RL-minutes to reach a station or a planet. My personal record so far is 20 minutes. As long as no mercaneries or bounty-hunters search for you, you may go out for a cigarette, make another coffee or call someone or whatever. A very relaxed game. You can get all infos you need from data-bases or videos. So, slowly I learn more and more and become better and better. I'm Vice Admiral of the Federation meanwhile. This leads directly to better offers.

    What I really miss is the ability to visit a casino or a nightclub at the end of a hard day ...

    Sure you can. You just have to learn a lot and get some practice. That'll take a while. But it's simply normal for a complex software I think. I own the PC version as well and use it with mouse and keybord. But I prefer the PS4 version becaus of the bigger screen and the better sound ;-)
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  13. Jamira thank you!

    The game sounds awesome and now wish I had the patience to learn it.

    My ex had three young kids who were avid and very skilled gamers and I would have enjoyed learning the game watching them play and them tutoring me.

    Maybe there are some Twitch streams?

    Will have a look some time for some vicarious space adventures. :)
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  14. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    Learning the game is easy. The basic knowledge is how to fly a ship. No need to learn everything else. This will happen as occasional side-effect after you started with simple jobs. Just set a small goal. As for instance: "I want better engins for my ship. Or larger length of hyperspace jumps." Do some jobs and improve your ship step by step. Don't try to learn mining and trading. You would be attacked bei pirates immediately. Don't do the jobs of head-hunting, attack pirates or other fractions and don't do sabotage. This way you will learn a lot in peace. Occasionally some hired folks will search for you when you do a data transport job. This is a chance to learn how to dodge such attacks.

    Running small jobs will increase your reputation at the people you work for. Next time you will get better jobs with higher payment. And one day you may become their ally. Wich helps a lot.

    Later you may set other goals. Like "I want an Anaconda!" (147 millions Credits). Or you may start a carreer as trader or miner - or even as head-hunter and saboteur. At this point you will know something about wich ship fits best to the job, wich improvements help and what and were to look for while running the job. Or what about founding a travel enterprise with a luxury Beluga Liner?
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  15. You know what Jamira? I think you’ve sold the game. ;)

    You’ve been such a good pre-purchase mentor that I just have to get it now!

    I will do as you recommend and aim to be a data courier.

    Guess I will have to buy a joystick again (gave mine away).

    I will update in here when I’ve bought it and began my space career. :)
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  16. San


    I've been meaning to get it, too, for quite a while now but other things still are higher up the list. Anyway, there is lots to watch and study about it, a simple search takes you to relevant YouTube and Twitch addresses. This here makes for a good introduction I think, although it does point you towards a headhunter career but as said, the choice is voluntary:

    A big stumbling block for me also is Steam, which does not get on my computer. But I found this:


    So yes, one of these days we might all meet in there :) Just can't promise yet which year.
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  17. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    Well, I play solo mode. So we won't meet. But who knows ...
    I bought it for my PS4 Pro and hope it'll be offered to me for my PSVR. One can use the PSVR to dive into the game more deeply. With the still flat but giant screen infront of you under the headset it is impressive already. It must be a blast in VR! Same with Gaia.
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  18. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    So this is the third game already I sold to you after "Life Is Strange" and "Mud Runner"? LOL!
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  19. Wistrel

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    Nothing wrong with enjoying PE for what it is. I know what you mean about PVP. I've occasionally snuck in there and indeed put the heart a little on edge knowing there might be some uber who will eat you for breakfast spring you at any moment.

    Re the video remember it is exaggerated although for the most part at least based on reality.
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  20. Wistrel

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    Ah now you are speaking my language. I think it is a weird obsession of mine, suspect brought on by not being able to have a joystick as a kid and never owning a console (not counting gameboys and successors). It's overkill but, same as in Entropia, I use two. Left one for lateral movement, right one for angular movement. Still working on what to do about up and down though...

    In fact, this is pretty much my setup, minus the cup holder and only half as many computer screens that is :D


    Yes... joysticks are a gateway drug - elite does seem to do something to people in that they seem to create more and more elaborate control setups.

    That said, I hear Elite plays well on a gamepad.
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