Creature data on the forum aka "Bestiary"

Discussion in 'About EntropiaPlanets' started by RAZER, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    In light of the Akbar 'situation' over at PCF we have finally kicked our 'Project Creatures' into high gear.
    As many of you might know, Entropia Planets has wiki feeds on various forums displaying creature information (Next Island and Cyrene Forum), AUD information (Arkadia Forum) and Mission info (Rocktropia).

    So far we had not really utilize that possibility on our own forum except for 1 or 2 little things.

    So below you see the first attempt to get creature data on to the forum (call it beta) and we would like some feedback from the community. Please give it a second or 2 to load.

    The idea is to have info card on the forum, with the basic info and a link to the wiki for the rest of the data. Is this the way to go, or do we need more data on the forum, or less. If more, what should be there?
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2014
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  2. Nor Alien

    Nor Alien Wisker Fish

    Looks good! There is a clipping problem for me see pic. Other then that we just need to fill in the gaps, and add some pics. :biggrin:
  3. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    Yes that's because of the major update we did last week and will be looked at, just wanted to wait for all the updates to be done, so we did not have to do it twice :), but that's no part of the creature thingy I wanna discuss here. So, any idea about that?
  4. sissi

    sissi sissi

    Damage types, max damage on lowest and highest maturity, oil looted and perhaps most common L item looted would be beneficial. Oil are/will be single stuff it seems since VU 15. If we ever get a current map with spawn positions a link to that would also be good.

    Class, movement, combat, attacks (=damage types? if so, as above) and range donĀ“t need to be on info card IMO
  5. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    The idea behind this card was to get peoples attention (as anyone can add this card to their post) and link to the wiki for the other info

    To add this card to your post put this in your post:
    The Beladoth is so far the only one that works (the poor thing seems to be the guinea pig for all our tests) , so don't try other creatures yet :)

    Below is what we have in the wiki for damage types and maturities and something we can get to the forum as well, either just the numbers or also the donut displaying the %

    danage.jpg maturities.jpg

    Loot could work, IF we had more people adding data to the wiki about that, as data is outdated pretty soon on that. We are working on a way to get that data into the wiki better, just not a 100% done yet.

    Map is also a work in progress and we are actually waiting on a few updates for that to work like we want it too. To see the map as we have it so far go here:
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  6. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    Looking good so far. I like the animation! btw totally off topic but did you guys see this? It is a new project by euforces to make a higher res map. So far it is looking very nice in deed!
  7. Tass

    Tass Administrator

    Regarding this thing:

    We call these "cards" but we also have "fact sheets" to embed in posts.
    The idea is that "cards" give a really quick overview, "fact sheets" contain more data and the full info will be on wiki. So there are 3 formats with different levels of details.

    While it's pretty clear that the wiki will have all the info, the question is how much detail should be in the "card" and "fact sheet" formats? And which one should be in post #1 of "bestiary" threads?

    Looks great, but I think I know these from loooong ago... Would be cool to see that project proceeding. Hell of a work though, unfortunately often waste of time because things in EU tend to change while it's still in alpha... Sigh, in-game maps, another area where EU is a couple of generations behind standards.
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  8. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    Isn't that the maps that Stave Petty started ?
  9. Nor Alien

    Nor Alien Wisker Fish

    Ok I think I get it now.

    I think having three different levels is too much. Maybe combine one and two and a link to wiki for the full effect? Akbars bestiary section was loaded with info but was combined in a small and compact space easily readable. Going to multiple links will take time from the hunt and more then likely be dismissed fast.

    Add health and damage types, with regen plus maybe locations (which can be updated by the players by posting in the separate sections, and I think that should be enough!

    On second thought I think I may just be too tired to understand. Not sure why but I'm reading too much into it. Plus this thread is kicking the crap out of my iPad mini. It's lagging down. Not sure it's the gifs or just general lag. I've been noticing this is getting worse lately. :( Maybe just a simple picture instead of the animation would be better? Now I'm just rambling. Sorry.
  10. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    The lag (or better the delay) you have is the info from the wiki that is displayed in the first post. It takes a few seconds for that to get to the forum.
  11. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    the first try for the data sheet on the forum. Lots of stuff still missing. Lemme know what you think

    Last edited: Dec 8, 2014
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  12. narfi

    narfi Lost

    I really like the Card and Sheet idea, especially since they can be easily posted on other forums and blogs when people want.
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  13. Nor Alien

    Nor Alien Wisker Fish

    Yeah I like that. Nice and easy. :thumbup:
  14. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    So what you can do is either have the card or the sheet in a post, but of course you can also have both for the full info in a creature.

    The beauty of this system is that anyone can edit the data, just by editing the wiki, so if things change during the holiday of the OP there is no reason to panic and all is still up to date :)
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  15. Nor Alien

    Nor Alien Wisker Fish

    Yeah I think I was trying to say that both would be better. Either way I like how it's progressing. :thumbup:
  16. Tass

    Tass Administrator

    One more thing worth mentioning: it's not for EP only but for other sites too, PP & society forums, blogs, etc. And it can be as easy as embedding Youtube videos.
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  17. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    It depends on the purpose I guess. I mean if you would make a thread about a event where people can hunt some creature on your land area and want to show which one's are there, the card would be enough.
  18. Nor Alien

    Nor Alien Wisker Fish

    Yes that would be ideal. Then you would have to make sure the card had the pertinent info such as Heath, aggression, attack types, level, and everything else you have on the cards now. :smile: I'm pretty sure you already had this in mind, but the pic you posted seems not to have some of it. :wink: I think that's where I was getting confused. :beerchug:

    The gist of it, if I'm going to hunt Beladoth, (say for an event someone posted, and they used your cards as reference) I want to know what armour to bring, if I may need to fap, weapons suitable to kill it, (including tagging if high aggression) etc. This should be easy to find in one shot as in the cards. If there are more info needed say what kinds of loot, and other areas that may be tax free zones, then the next step would be the data sheet.

    Then finally the full story like the history of the mob (his likes and dislikes, how his mother used to coddle him, very important has he may have mommy issues! :wink:) And all the info from the cards and data sheets, then a link to wiki! :thumbup:

    I hope I cleared up my idea a bit better. Sorry, the brain as of late, is focused on other things, like your attempts to take over the world! :sneaky:
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  19. Amber Knightley

    Amber Knightley I see dead people.

    Please do something about the size of the card, I hate when there are unnecessary scroll bars.
    Would be good to know if it depends on the forum or the wiki feature though...

    Else these are great things! So much better than just posting a link to some wiki page.

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  20. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    @Nor Alien I still would like the Card to have little info and move the attack types to the sheet, as that would make the card a lot bigger then I would like. If more info is needed/wanted, you can always use both in the same post.

    BUT, don't get me wrong I like the comment and I will take that into consideration. Need to figure out a good balance between size and info on the card.

    Last edited: Dec 8, 2014
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